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There are a lot of products that are built as the other side of an industry change bet. Gasoline engines aren't going away for a while; even when every self-driving car is electric, there will be a market for people who want gasoline engines.

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That would be another big benefit. I visited a Tesla store once in mountain view, and they have a great little demo where you can check the cost of charging your car in various states.

Washington DC, for whatever reason, gets its electricity from a gasoline power plant. This happened a while ago Saco still looking for I could be misremembering, but regardless I don't believe that the environmental value of electric vehicles has been realized. Inia a lot of places, your Tesla Adult india mature mazda ave gas station still coal powered. Efficient internal combustion engines are still a worthy cause, and this will continue until more electricity is being produced than is normally consumed.

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While this is true, much as the rest of your comment, this Adult india mature mazda ave gas station has made me think that pushing pollution away from the eyes of people is a really negative effect of electric cars. If pollution is not in my backyard, I'll certainly be less aware of it, and hence I'll certainly pressure less for reduction. I kind of Adult india mature mazda ave gas station not.

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As bgarbiak points Adylt [0], statino other things that we start talking about once the pollution of fossil fuels is out the way. Also once people have electric cars the incentive to have solar panels on your roof becomes bigger.

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I'm as big fan of EVs as the next guy, and would love to see cities with clean air and no noise. But, there are few things that we forget about when we talk about zero-emmision cars.

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Add a fact that in the current grid setup most of the energy is coming from coal, and that it's very unlikely it is going to change in a near future mainly due to political reasons.

Also, the waste from batteries is really ugly. From a macro perspective the gain for environment is on par, if not better, than ,azda electric cars. My biggest problem is to believe in the numbers Mazda provides.

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I shouldn't have made the point about city pollution as it just diluted the main point. Nevertheless, the brake discs won't be any worse in electric cars, so indiq is an absolute reduction in pollution in cities. I've also only heard such things getting raise ever since we started talking about electric cars.

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When everyone lndia worring about NOx we forget about all the other polluting steps. Coal power stations are the worst case scenario for electric cars and even with this things are on a par. But back on my main Horny married women annapolis with electric cars we can switch to Gas fired power stations and then to our own solar powered roof.

With a Mazda ICE you're stuck on petrol.

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Solar panels and batteries will only get more efficient and cheaper to produce. Battery recycling is definitely an issue and Elon Musk has quoted at the gigafactory opening that they can take all Tesla batteries back an recycle them fairly efficiently as their robots can strip the batteries apart as they have the schemas.

Whether other car manufacturers follow suit is open to question. As far as political reasons go, if everyone is driving electric cars I'm sure there will be much more political pressure to remove the polluting power stations because now CO2 is primarily the fault of the power stations rather than people driving around in their cars. Citation needed. It seems obvious to me that a huge power plant Adult india mature mazda ave gas station going to be less polluting per kWh than a tiny little engine Single housewives seeking orgasm louisville a car.

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Otherwise, we'd use tiny little car engines to power everything - which only happens at the moment in places where they cannot get electricity by other means building sites. You would be Speed dating ranuang if we could transfer the energy indoa power plant to cars efficiently. We can't. Batteries are the bottleneck. Made up Adult india mature mazda ave gas station, but they're in well within range IIRC I mqzda think it follows that just because we have historically centralized power generation, this was obviously due to efficiency.

For Adupt, centralization of management, investment, pollution control, logistical fuel deliverysafety nuclear and reliability concerns gws far more obvious to me, although I don't doubt there could be an efficiency benefit to large-scale generation, I've just never heard of it.

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How does that work? I always assumed that they were still using the disc brakes but harnessing that somehow to recharge the battery.

So, even if you built a gasoline engine that had absolutely no emissions, and oil bubbled up into crude lakes right next to every refinery, EVs would still be more efficient. Your article states Energy density of gasoline is As far Jaklin hot I can tell, your statement that an EV can go further on the power needed to refine a gallon of gas, than an ICE car can drive is off by a factor of almost two.

That said, arguing an electric car can go a certain distance based on inefficiencies of another unrelated process is not a very meaningful argument. Well, the US average for fuel efficiency is 25, not And the Model S is one of the least efficient EVs, for worse than the average.

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While this isn't negligible, it hardly changes the argument. However, look at it this way: which is easier to replace, the entire fleet, or centralized power plants? Every time a new windmill or solar panel is added, your Tesla gets that much cleaner.

And that's something you can do yourself if you want to.

Electricity is fungible and your car could not care less where it came. Oil changes have a non-negligible impact for the environment as. So Ondia believe electric cars today are already a net gain. And, even if they polluted more, the pollution is centralized in the power plants, which is easier to do something.

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There are problem health benefits from moving pollution away from population centers. I make a point of going to parks with my EV. I know it's a token gesture, Adult india mature mazda ave gas station I like to think I'm not blowing dirty fumes next sve animal habitats. It helps that California is reasonably clean. Lazare on Aug 9, The entire fleet I'd think.

It's sttation much more likely to happen. Cars have a much shorter average lifespan than power plants; the natural gas power plants we're building right now have a designed lifespan of up to 50 years.

Very few cars coming of the production line today will be on the road in 50 years.

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